he voted for obama. a liberal on social issues as well. they famously didn't have fox news in the headquarter. usually when you go to the military headquarter they have tv screens and have fox news on. he didn't. c-span: you say who is the fellow dave silverman? >> guest: a character. a navy seal who became one of general's most trusted right hand men, and very dynamic guy. very interesting guy. very entertaining guy, very accomplished individual. in fact now and dave had a great time hanging out with him on this trip, and now day silverman is the ceo of the mccrystal group which is his consulting firm he set up. c-span: you say in your book i've seen other places he's on the boards. >> guest: jetblue. he's offering training seminars for a lot of money. c-span: he got along pretty well. >> guest: $60 ,000 a speaking engagement and he has a book. c-span: go back to the moment who said yes you could come inside? >> guest: i got the e-mail from duncan and duncan said why don't you come over to paris where general mccrystal is going drum up su